Brownies 23 East

[DeadHdMike57]

I have a hard time believing that any owner of an establishment such as Brownies would change any ingredient in their thursday nite booking that would possibly cause them to lose money.
I don't know what the financial arrangement is between the band and the bar (I have typically seen the cover go to the band & the bar 100% to the establishment), but in the 2 times I've been to SS on thursdays, it was packed with over 150 at each gig. And that did not leave too much room for many more people either. So, from a dollars and cents perspective, you have 150 paying customers on a regular basis, who probably have an average of 3 drinks at $5 apiece. So there is ample cash flow to sustain the place. Even a top notch cover for another music genre would have a difficult time rallying an average of 120 people on a given thursday for the long haul. If the establishment wants to guarantee profitability, there are other ways to achieve that, but killing the "Goose that lays the Golden Egg" is not a prudent way to proceed here.
It would be irresponsible of a Bar to push more drinks on the attendees, most of us have a nice drive after the show and stop any alcohol by the end of set one.
One option that might work is to start earlier (8:30), have a $10 cover (since the band would play longer). This would allow an extra drink or 2 per person and still allow enough time to sober up for the drive home.
But in the end, it is an equation that needs to result in a profit for the band and the establishment. In the end, I think that Brownies would be hard-pressed to find an act that could provide a similar cash flow to the Brownies Management than Splintered Sunlight has for the past years. Let's hope they "See the Light", but if not, there are plenty of places that would gladly welcome the band, the fans and the profit that would come from having a regular gig of this nature.

DeadHdMike Phillips

[johnnylove]

Dear Grateful People:

WE have so much to be thankful for. There have been so many great comments on this thread. We obviously have a community that cares and this mobilization is great evidence of our will to keep Thursdays going at Brownies and/or elsewhere.

For the bar it is about optimization of the establishment. They have significant expenses namely rent and limited days in the week to get a good return on investment.

Anna and Miguel, welcome to Brownies and our Splintered family.

We should all think creatively about this beautiful event that is a business and embrace some outside the box ideas.

Is it potentially better for everyone for Splintered to play Brownies every other Thursday and branch out geographically on the off Thursdays(i.e King of Prussia one Thurs and say Warminster the other, many factors to serve the market- train access etc..) The idea is for the band to get some further reach and following which may bring in more to Brownies.

I think some have become complacent and say "Oh, I can go any Thursday and SS will be there." I think the waning numbers in the fall has to do with this and the slumping economy. We know the band will be great if not incredible every outing.

For the numbers not to fall off again, we need a plan the works well ongoing and transforms to serve the needs of the customer.

Opening the kitchen is a good idea, however we need to really hit the mark to make it profitable and nutritious to some degree. So.. What do you want to eat?
From my knowledge some healthy salad and veggies options along with pizza, wings, etc.. would sell. Let's get a questionaire out.

How about Splintered Dinner Thursdays at 8:30? Show at 9:30. Every week, once a month whatever. What will we step up to? Let's break bread together!

We can help get to the number with some profit in the food. You can still get value priced food and still create a profit if it is planned well. So let's take orders on a questionaire or better yet order it online the day before. We want to limit the overhead cost by limiting kitchen staff hours ie 8-11.

If we get together on this and tell them what we'd like to eat and when, they can hit the mark and it's good for all.

The late start time definitely keeps people away. However, we late folks might just need to get moving a little earlier to grow this. I know this was attempted, but not well marketed. There is more at stake now than accomodating those that prefer to start partying at eleven. Fine, we'll have more after parties now if we end at 12-12:30.

Thanks for caring, your friendship, your smiles, enjoying these great shows together, and putting up with crazy wacky banter out of me. I believe this is all going to get even better because of the healthy dialogue. Love, Johnny J

[BobC]

Hello everybody.
Sorry I am so late on this thread, personal priorities have pulled me away for a while.

Of course I would like the Splintered Thursday nights at Brownies to continue as well.
I personally don't make it out very much, but will definitely use my talents to help the cause.

I'll get some banner ads going that everybody can post to the social media sites, websites, forums, etc of your liking.

Keep up the good work peeps.

Peace.
~Bob C.

[ExcitedToBeHere]

Man, this thread totally rocks. SS family is "Out of this world!!"

You are all GOLD in my book! I am going to make a big effort to make it out tonight. So, I hope to see you all there!!

[MYEZ]

Hey Bob C ... Does Zerns have a stage ???!!!!!!

[ExcitedToBeHere]

Hey Bob C ... Does Zerns have a stage ???!!!!!!

[TarotJill]

I have a hard time believing that any owner of an establishment such as Brownies would change any ingredient in their thursday nite booking that would possibly cause them to lose money.

^^um, yeah. like accepting U.S. currency legal tender in paper OR coin form, and respecting long time patrons who have been nothing but respectful to the establishment~

[Joyful]

I have a hard time believing that any owner of an establishment such as Brownies would change any ingredient in their thursday nite booking that would possibly cause them to lose money.

^^um, yeah. like accepting U.S. currency legal tender in paper OR coin form, and respecting long time patrons who have been nothing but respectful to the establishment~

Whassup, Jill? Someone give a hard time over coinage?
Lemme at 'em...